What happens when the host becomes the guest?

In a refreshing role reversal, Cagdas—a brilliant PhD candidate at Simon Fraser University studying global mobility and digital nomadism—turns the microphone on our very own Stephen Ekstrom, CEO and Cofounder of Learn Tourism. The result is a candid, inspiring, and thought-provoking conversation about what it truly means to live and work on the move.

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A House, a Dog, and a Question

Stephen’s digital nomad journey didn’t begin with a grand plan. It started with a big house in Florida, one dog, and the realization that life—especially one guided by curiosity—could look different.

What began as a short RV rental to explore the U.S. turned into a years-long lifestyle filled with learning, laughter, and a second dog. With an RV as his home and the road as his office, Stephen has redefined the meaning of work-life balance, bringing tourism education to life from deserts, beaches, forests, and ferry decks across North America.

Learning on the Road

In this episode, Stephen shares how being a digital nomad has transformed his views on education, community, and self-sufficiency. As he says, “There is somebody out there with less than you, doing what you want to do—and they’re happier for it.”

Çağdaş, whose research explores the lived experiences of mobile professionals, unpacks what makes digital nomadism more than just a trend. Together, they discuss:

• The psychology of choosing freedom over permanence

• How Stephen designs educational experiences that meet people wherever they are—literally

• What it’s like to sleep in your own bed every night, no matter the ZIP code

• The difference between being alone and feeling lonely

• How curiosity, empathy, and humility guide life on the road

A Life Designed Around the Present

One of the most powerful takeaways from this conversation is the intentional practice of presence. Stephen doesn’t plan months ahead. He doesn’t keep rigid schedules. He simply asks, “Where should I go next?”—and trusts that he’ll figure it out.

That mindset isn’t just for nomads. It’s a lesson in faith, adaptability, and being open to transformation. Whether you're a remote worker, a lifelong traveler, or someone craving a different way of living and learning, this episode offers something real and resonant.

Keep the Conversation Going

Stephen and Cagdas' exchange is more than a podcast episode—it’s a testament to what happens when curiosity meets courage. It challenges us to rethink how we live, learn, and connect in a world where mobility is not just possible, but powerful.

👉 Have questions about digital nomadism or tourism workforce training? Would you like to bring Stephen or Learn Tourism to your event or program?  Get in touch.